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Here are the results from the Favourite Pairings Poll, Round Two, which, in itself, was the follow-up to the Most Popular Fandom Pairings Poll, whose results are here.

With apologies to the threesome lovers, I had to weed those out along with unspecified and non-HP pairings (although I perfectly agree with [livejournal.com profile] forked that Ian/Irons is the height of hot, and pretty canon too!).
[livejournal.com profile] author_by_night: in RL you're right, of course, about homosexual pairings not needing a seperate category. But since fandom has its own conventions, and things would get very murky in a all-for one, you'll have to bear with it :).
Again, first choice was awarded 4 points, second 3, etc.



Maleslash: 1) Harry/Draco (195), 2) Remus/Sirius (142), 3. Snape/Harry (140), 4. Snape/Lupin (79). Runners-up: Harry/Ron (65) and Ron/Draco (62), followed by Harry/Lucius (39), Lucius/Snape (35) and Harry/Voldemort+Tom (33)

Het: 1) Ron/Hermione (129), 2) Snape/Hermione (73), 3. Harry/Ginny (64), 4. Draco/Hermione (56). Runners-up: James/Lily (55), Harry/Hermione (52), and Lucius/Narcissa and Remus/Tonks (both 47)

Femmeslash: 1) Ginny/Luna (107), 2) Pansy/Hermione (84), 3. Hermione/Ginny (69), 4. Ginny/Pansy (35). Runners-up: Hermione/Luna (34), Tonks/Ginny (33), Bellatrix/Narcissa (32).


Slash... interestingly, the personal favourites and 'what do you think are fandom favourites' polls turned up exactly the same results in practically the same order (except for a mention of Harry/Lucius in the former, which I'll blame on running this on my own, slanted f-list, *g*).

Femmeslash... again the first 9 favourites on both lists were identical, different positions aside - some pairings a bit higher or lower.

Het... here, the results are a little more diverse, but not much, although Ron/Hermione came out on top in both polls. Personal favourites seem to rate adult-and-cross-gen pairings a little bit higher, but that, again, may have to do with it being my flist, which isn't very teen-heavy.

Extremely different, however, was the number of pairings mentioned: in the 'personal favourites poll', four times more maleslash pairings were mentioned than in the 'fandom favourites poll', twice as many femmeslash pairings, and a staggering six times as many favourite het pairings. It looks as if people are aware of a limited number of fandom-wide popular ships, but have more diverse personal preferences.

If you want a mad assortment of tables to see the details, throw me a mail :).

Also, *grumbles quietly*, as soon as December is over, I'll so be spamming you lot with femmeslash recs! This amount of "don't really read femmeslash" responses is, well, *frump*... You're missing out on a lot of good stuff there!

Date: 2006-12-14 08:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
I'll so be spamming you lot with femmeslash recs! This amount of "don't really read femmeslash" responses is, well, *frump*... You're missing out on a lot of good stuff there!

I'd like to find a good femmeslash fic to Niffle if I could. The trouble is that there isn't all that much of it about, and most of what I do see mentioned is either (a) Blackcest among the Three Sisters (which has to be one of fandom's more bizarre obsessions) or (b) involving Hermione and/or Ginny, which (like much slash) triggers "yeah, right" responses for me.

Date: 2006-12-14 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
My greatest problem is that most of my favourites are a bit above R... Strangely enough, femmeslash is the one context where Ginny and Tonks do not trigger my 'screech-and-run' reflex... well, not quite as much as in other genres ;). But I still prefer Hermione, Millicent, Pansy and adult females.

Still, there was one very memorable piece... *digs through previous fests*... ah, no, two... Luna, Marietta, Cho and Hermione/Susan. But again the old problem... rating.

Date: 2006-12-14 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Really above R, or just that over-cautious above R some writers do, so that in fact the fics might be submitted to an archive and get by quite happily as R? (I'm thinking of a certain NC-17 rated Harry/Ron fic you may remember, that for me barely merited an R rating.)

Luna, Susan, Millicent, even Pansy or (surprisingly) Cho -- yeah, much easier for me to see as slashable. (Not especially keen on those two recs though, sorry. Yes, all right, the language in the first one is elaborate and technically good, but the second is pretty much bog standard shagfic. And for me in both the characterisation has a faint air of unreality and there's not much actual story. Although I'll admit I might overlook those points in a story I found genuinely sexy. :D)

Date: 2006-12-15 09:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
I've given up on the borders from and to R altogether ;).

Admittedly, I'm into bog standard shagfic if the characters ring true. The second I found immensely sexy, the first not so much, more effective for the characterisation. Sexiness is a subjective minefield, so sorry that this wasn't yours ;). I'm still reading femmeslash mostly to feed my (admittedly under-developed) desire for romance :).

Date: 2006-12-15 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivullinen.livejournal.com
I... don't know you or anything, but I just can't resist showing this (http://community.livejournal.com/scarletwomen/2667.html) or this (http://community.livejournal.com/scarletwomen/14570.html) to you...

Date: 2006-12-15 11:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Thanks anyway. :) Much more convincing, yes (in fact I've seen the second of those before, now I think about it). I prefer the first one because it has rather more substance to it, but that's just me -- prestidigitation in language and little actual story usually leaves me rather cold.

Date: 2006-12-16 09:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Oooh, thanks! The Pansy/Luna in particular rocked my socks to no end! What a great, fun read.

Date: 2006-12-15 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-t-rain.livejournal.com
Well, I'm fond of Oral History by Acadine, but I don't know if it's precisely the sort of thing you're looking for, since although it's labeled Padma / Cho it reads perfectly well as a genfic.

Date: 2006-12-15 05:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snorkackcatcher
Hmm ... I see what you mean. It's a curious one, and I'm not quite sure why it needs a ship label at all.

It also seems ... I don't know, one of those odd stories that (to me) try to make a point about racism using the Potterverse, but don't quite nail it? Because it has to play against the analogy JKR seems to be setting up, where there genuinely isn't any skin prejudice in the wizarding world, but there's a fully functional equivalent prejudice, showing that the mindset is universal.

(Also, personally, on the general gist of the story, I've no great problem with the concept of focusing primarily on local and regional history at school, that's just practicality. I wouldn't expect Indian schools to teach (say) the British Civil War -- or for that matter the US Civil War -- rather than their own history.)

Date: 2006-12-14 08:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ambersnake
I'll so be spamming you lot with femmeslash recs
Femmeslash just has nothing to offer for me. I already know how the female mind and body work. Yeah, okay, it's very much individual, but compared to the male sex, I at least have a leg to stand on. There's nothing to wonder about women on women. Nor women on men, really. Been there, done that ;) Plus, Rowling's female characters don't really make me want to know more about them.

Date: 2006-12-14 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
I'll admit that I'm also more drawn to male slash because of the 'unknown' and excitement. But at times I also like the familiar (and when it comes to writing, at least with femmeslash the 'does that work/is that hot/how does that feel' issue doesn't crop up so much. Which sometimes is nice :).

Date: 2006-12-22 03:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ambersnake
True, true. Slash-writing female authors could be feeding all sorts of crap, and I just lap it up :P

My boyfriend wanted to know what all this slash business was all about, so I gave him a few PG-13 fics to read. He enjoyed them, but scoffed at the way the male characters acted in certain situations. But I'm sticking to my dream of how men think and behave when women aren't looking; otherwise it's going to be pretty bleak from now on ;)

Date: 2006-12-14 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hphaeton.livejournal.com
NOOOOOOOO! How did I miss this? I especially kept my eyes open for this one and did miss it anyway!?

Date: 2006-12-17 10:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hphaeton.livejournal.com
I checked the date...that was the weekend I was in Munich, visiting my sister. I can only imagine that I didn't go back enough on my friends page...*sigh*

Date: 2006-12-15 07:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
I'll have to check but I think m guesses at popular pairings were more or less right, hehehe.

That was a very fun series of polls, thank you! *looks forward femslash*

Date: 2006-12-16 10:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Femmeslash - there are a handful of links above already, but there'll be a substantial post or three in January (when the holiday exchanges have stopped eating my brain, that is, *g*)

Date: 2006-12-15 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com
Interesting surveys - thanks for all the work!

Date: 2006-12-16 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
It was fun to do (and I saw a few pairings mentioned I'd never even thought about before, *g*).

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