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Yeah, I understand you, but that's already the first step to everybody losing their cool and starting to misread and misinterpret and go to war needlessly. I find it easier to walk up to an opponent assuming a) she's got a point and her reasons, b) she's a human being and I'll treat her like one, and c) she's acting in good faith (contrary to what HP would tell us, we're not usually out there to be evil, like Voldie). Yes, they may still turn out to be irredeemable arses in the long run, but at least I haven't set out to misrepresent and vilify them. It helps me not to lose my cool.
If anyone behaves fairly, there's no blame - disagreement is totally fine. I'm not saying everybody on the 'other side' was a rabid mob-ling - there were excellent and convincing points made against the use of the term, and I don't doubt the sincerity of those who bothered to make them. It's the ugliness of the wank that bothered me - not just here, it's just the most recent example.
My personal take on it - and you have *every* right in the world to disagree with that if you see it differently - is both of proportion and of example. Example, because I'm still extremely thin-skinned about *any* attempt at outside interference in non-mainstream comms after Strikethrough. As such, I want a firm stand of 'don't let *anyone* dictate to *anyone* what to write/what prompts to use' - because we've seen where it can lead. And well, proportion. This thing started over a word that was chosen without negative intent, which led to perfectly harmless fic/art (in the context of the comm, that is), was not recognised as racist by many, and whose racist connotations would (that's my personal opinion) fit the HP-universe with it's strong focus on race and prejudice very well. Yes, I can really *see* why people who've encountered it in a RL context might be upset about it, but I don't think that the extremity of the wankstorm wasn't appropriate to the offense.
Yes, you probably think differently, especially if you come to it with different experience. I respect that - a lot. My basic point is that we can have different opinions and *still* treat each other like human beings instead of constructing the other into a evil monster. At least I hope we can?
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Yeah, I understand you, but that's already the first step to everybody losing their cool and starting to misread and misinterpret and go to war needlessly. I find it easier to walk up to an opponent assuming a) she's got a point and her reasons, b) she's a human being and I'll treat her like one, and c) she's acting in good faith (contrary to what HP would tell us, we're not usually out there to be evil, like Voldie). Yes, they may still turn out to be irredeemable arses in the long run, but at least I haven't set out to misrepresent and vilify them. It helps me not to lose my cool.
If anyone behaves fairly, there's no blame - disagreement is totally fine. I'm not saying everybody on the 'other side' was a rabid mob-ling - there were excellent and convincing points made against the use of the term, and I don't doubt the sincerity of those who bothered to make them. It's the ugliness of the wank that bothered me - not just here, it's just the most recent example.
My personal take on it - and you have *every* right in the world to disagree with that if you see it differently - is both of proportion and of example. Example, because I'm still extremely thin-skinned about *any* attempt at outside interference in non-mainstream comms after Strikethrough. As such, I want a firm stand of 'don't let *anyone* dictate to *anyone* what to write/what prompts to use' - because we've seen where it can lead. And well, proportion. This thing started over a word that was chosen without negative intent, which led to perfectly harmless fic/art (in the context of the comm, that is), was not recognised as racist by many, and whose racist connotations would (that's my personal opinion) fit the HP-universe with it's strong focus on race and prejudice very well. Yes, I can really *see* why people who've encountered it in a RL context might be upset about it, but I don't think that the extremity of the wankstorm wasn't appropriate to the offense.
Yes, you probably think differently, especially if you come to it with different experience. I respect that - a lot. My basic point is that we can have different opinions and *still* treat each other like human beings instead of constructing the other into a evil monster. At least I hope we can?