I don't understand what you're getting at. I'm saying that if you approach the conversation with a level of respect for the person you're talking to, whether you're for or against something--and no, I wasn't specifically thinking of the racism wank, but EVERY wank I've seen--you're much less likely to say something rude that you'll later regret. I certainly understand the anger, frustration and hurt people felt regarding the tag, and I was not accusing any particular person of not adhering to good manners, but I've certainly seen a lot of the spillover from FW (on both sides of the issue) that I simply don't like--baiting, swearing and name-calling, none of which advances the conversation or adds anything worthwhile to the debate. It all comes down to the 'personal attacks' which I've spoken to you about before. I'm saying that my position is exactly the same as it's always been. I'm certainly against the tag that demumanized PoC (although I think it was done in ignorance, though compounded by later actions), but I'm also against dehumanizing anyone else. Even if they're stupid and make me angry. Does that make sense?